04-02-2010, 12:10 AM
Lo jee dobara aa gaey phir say. So, he confirmed abhi tabiat ke saffaai aur honi baaqi hai. Abhi aafaaqa nahi hua!!
Barkhurdar,
Apni umar kay 32 saal ka aik dam say dukh hona shuroo ho gaya and you felt a bit disgrace when your failure personality is discussed but you feel no botheration in keeping on posting bakwaas stuff about others including Zaid Hamid. Kuch sharam karo. Apni baat say khud he koi sabaq seekh lo.
Meray baarey main jo bhi likho uski logic bhi samajh main aati hai. Kisi teray jaisay bey-aqal maulvi ko koi "GHATYA" ya "Do Takkay ka"¨ likh kar uski tail par paaon rakh day tu who aur karey ga kiya. "Hushhhhhhhh" tu keh he diya hua hai tumko. Ab yeh sab tu karo gey hee.
Jo contradiction tum nay dhoondh rakhi hain un par sab tum par hanstay hain. Aik aqal ka andha Zaid Hamid ko kaafir qaraar denay par tula betha hai, aur munaafiq itnaa hai keh jab bhi pooch kehta hai ¡§mainay kab usko Kaafir qaraar diya¡¨. Betaa apni contradiction theek kar sab say pehlay. Jin ko tum contradiction kehtay ho who tumko contradiction iss liyey lagti hai kyun keh tumhara DABBA (ooper waali manzzal) khaali hai yaa kuch aur bhara hua hai uss main.
Agar apni zaat par taras hai tu aqal say socho kia bakwas kartay ho. Aik bhi baat ke tumko samajh nahi, Arbi kay chandd lafaz RATT liyay hain, kuch self-made designations yaad kar liyey hain aur chalay ho roab jhaarnay apni naatawaan jahaalat ka. BTW tum par koi bhi hansay tumko kia faraq parta hai. Tum par tu loge pehlay bhi hanstay thay; we have all the threads alive where your DURGAT has been made time and again by invariably all members. Who sab ghalat thay aur aik tum theek ho Mashallah.
Imam Khumeni sahib ke baat baar baar karo gey bhi tu apni he zaat ko gandaa karo gey. Kuch cheezain aisee hoti hain jo nafrat bharhaati hain. Tum ko aqal ho iss baat ke tu sharm say doob martay because you are already well known for your hate creating yelling aur ruknaa mushkil hai tumhaaray liyey. Mujhay koi aur bhi poochhay gat u main mazeed detail main bata doon ga keh mujh ko PERSONALLY Khumeni sahib say kia kia ikhtelaaf hai. Ikhtelaaf rakhnaa jaaiz hai aur iss main koi gunah nahi. Tum kiya talaash karnaa chaahtay ho iss baat main?? Mujhay tumhaaray saath aur kai aur "ulema" kay saath ......(jo Arbi kay designation ratty hain tum nay).... bhi ikhtelaaf ho saktaa hai. Tum ya who Naoozbillah Farishtay hain ya Prophets hain (Naoozbillah) jo unsay ikhtelaaf nahi ho saktaa??
Aaj tak yeh tu bata nahi sakay "Ulema" kahaan say derive kia hua lafz hai aur baseless discussion kiyey jaa rahay ho. Kia iss kay baarey main search engine say kuch nahi milaa?? Ab ikhtelaaf tu aik doosray say sab ko hai aur ho sakta hai. Iss baat par tum jaisaa ghatya insaan kisi kay eemaan ka fatwa dey gaa kia? Kahaan likhaa hua hai keh kisi "maulvi", "aalim" ya "Ulema" say ikhtelaaf nahi ho saktaa??? Bataao gey zara??? Kyun Khuda banaaey jaa rahey ho chand Maulviyon ko (Naoozbillah).? Abb asaan feham baat par bakwaas jaari rakho gey tu kia ho ga? Damaagh hai ya bhuss bhari hui hai???? Abhi bhi kehtay hai "main nonhaa qaaqaa hoon kisi ko uksaa nahi raha kisi kay khilaaf". Teray jaisee cheez 100 saal bhi pipe main daal do waisee hee rehti hai. Tum ghatya logon kaa tu kaam he yahi hai, chand ratti rattaai baatein dhoondho, logon ko provoke karo aur aag laga do moaashray main aur aman tabaah kar do. Kai loge tumhain sharam dilaa chukay hain par tumko hoti tu aati na.
As far as your non-sense about my words that Khumeni Sahib was not a maulvi is concerned, even by putting in all your efforts you could not hide your immense JAHAALAT. Aur kehtay ho maina yeh saabit kar diyaa mainay who saabit kar diyaa. Betaa tum nay sirf yeh saabit kiyaa hai aaj tak keh tum bay panaah jaahil aur fasaadi tabiat kay maalik ho. Tumhara koi bhi thread uthaa lo, pehlay say aaaj tak, 99% cases main yahi kuch dekhnay ko milay gaa. Oh jaahil aadmi, I said "Khumeni sahib koi maulvi nahi thay; rather he was a great scholar, thinker, social reformer and philospher". Tumhara damaagh agar "scholar" ka matlab nahi samjhtaa to "Ayetullah" ka kahaan say samjhay ga?? Kyun bila-waja ka zore lagaa rahay ho aisee baat par jo tumhaari aqal say bari hai??? Search engines ka stuff tumko aqal nahi dey saktaa; main he nahi aur loge bhi samjha chukay hain tumko. Jhatt say gaey Khumeni Sahib ke talaash main aur baat banaanay ke nakaam koshish kar lee. Yeh saabit kia hai tum nay??? Yahi kuch apnay CMA main bhi saabit kartay ho issi liyay baray laaiq maanay jaatey ho.
Tumhaari expected bak bak (about Ahl-e-Tashi) ka zikar iss liyey kia keh tum say kuch bhi bay aqal harkat expect ke jaa sakti hai. Gham na kar zindagee pari hai abhi. I will tell you whenever you will yell about them on this forum. Time mil gaya tu zara teri puraani harkaton par bhi nazar daura kay dekhoon gaa. Kyun? Because you are a fool who can say anything about any one. Kabhi aalimon ke aulaad ban jaatey ho, kabhi pothohaari khoon daurnay lagta hai tumhaarey ander, kabhi buhat suljha huaa act karnay kee nakaam koshish, kabhi buhat bara economist ban jaaney ka drama aur kabhi manager accounts (jisko yeh nahi pata keh uski company ko kaunsay standards apply hotay hain). Kia ho tum?? Kuch bhi kar saktay ho. Damaagh naa ho tu jo marzi karo.
Madrissay ka syllabus! Kia baaat hai. Bhaai jin madrisson say teray jaisay nikaltay hain unki end product tu nazzar aa rahi hai, ab syllabus ko dekh kay kia kuch nai baat saamnay aa jaaey gee?? And yes, while saying something about ¡§Parrots¡¨ I am neither referring the real noble men of Allah nor a few quality educational institutions. Ab Allah ka nizaam tu chal raha hai naa aur Inshallah chaltay rehna hai. Har koi teray jaisa Jaahil tu nahi. Na he saarey madrissay teray jaisay ¡§parrots¡¨ produce kartay hain. Yahaan baat teri category ke ho rahi hai; don¡¦t mix it up. Agar yeh sirf teri category ka maumla na hota tu main Sarfarz Naeemee sahib ko refer na karta. Kuch tu aqal kar yaa "bay-aqal" honay kaa certificate lay rakha hai?
Takhasus-Fil-Hadees, Mashallah kia baat ke hai bhaai sahib nay. Tum ko pata hai? Chalo maan letay hain. Tum (aur tum jaison) nay kiyaa ukhaar liyaa hai aaj tak pata honay kay baa-wajood??? Agar samjho tu yahi aik sawaal hai. Aik Islmic country main dunyaa kee har buraai peak par maujood hai; aur tum bethay raho issi khushi main keh tumko Takhasus-Fil-Hadees ka pata hai. Kia approach hai. Mujhay Quran say zara yeh Lafaz nikaal kay parhaao please, meharbaani ho gee? Agar Sahi Hadees books say parha do tub hi shukriya. ) Koi naik kaam bhi kia karo. Sirf doodh ka dabba sarak par ragarnay ke awaaz he nikaaltay rehtay ho (a compliment given by "Spectrum" to you).
Aik aur baat, logon ko tu buhat kuch kehtay phir rahay ho; khud ke khabar bhi hai kuch? Tum ko kaun see authority hai mazhabi muamlaat par logon ko defame karnay ke??? Kaun say MUFTI ya Sheikh-ul-Hadees ho tum??? Pidar-e-man sultaan bood kay chakar main fatway diyey jaa rahay ho kiaa??? Abhi end par pohancho tumhaari auqaat wohaan mazeed waazeh ho jaaey gee keh tum ho kiaa.
Hamara dukh yeh hai keh aksar auqaat jo banda kisi aur field main nahi chaltaa who mazhab par qismat aazmaai shuroo kar detaa hai, aur phir sab ka ¡§Ulema¡¨ ban beth-taa hai apnay aap hee. Sab dost ird gird nazar daal kay dekh lein, khud he pata chalay gaa keh Parrots kaisay produce hotay hain. Buhat kam loge hotay hain (I know aisay loge bhi hain; and I have good luck of being in their company) jo qualitative educational back ground rakhtay hain aur religious studies ko adapt kartay hain. Otherwise, aksariyat who hai jo kisi aur field main nahi chal sakti, har taraf say nakaam hoti hai and at the end choose religion to make it their Takhta-e-Mashq (Naoozbillah). Yeh banda iss cheez kee aik misaal hai. Abb iss say aap kia expect kar saktay hain? Yahi joy eh kar raha hai.
Your following lines are showing what you are? Koi bhi parh lay sirf yeh he kaafi hain tumhaaray munh par bey-aqali aur takabbar ke mohar lagaanay kay liye. You said
...............I know k kuch Moderate and progressive /secular log bhee apne bachon ko hifz kerwatain take un k NATWAN kandhon pe bhet k Janat main ja sakain..............
Abb iss say zyada tumhaari zehniyat kahaan clear ho gee? Shukar hai kuch logon ko itnaa tu darr hai keh jannat main jaanaa asaan nahi. Tum jaisay aqal kay andhay nay kiyaa jannat ka ticket katwaya hua hai???????????? Hamein bhi dekhaao zara, ham bhi deedar kar lain uss ticket ka. Kis aalim kee aulaad ho jis nay tumko itni aqal bhi nahi dee????? Kyun unki matti paleed kar rahay ho. Iss say zyada zaleel harkat tum kiaa kar saktay ho? Allah kay Nabi PBUH nai aik sawal kay jawaab main khud apnay baaray main arshaad farmaya keh who apni naikiyon ke wajah say nahi, Allah ke rehmat say Jannat main jaaein gey (Mafhoom of a Hadees). Yeh Hadees ham jaison ko samjhaanay kay liyey he farmaai gai thee. Aur hamara aik Ghatya "Parrot" samjhta hai uss nay ticket ya license liya hua hai jannat ka. Kia ajeeb-ul-khalqat cheez hai yaar yeh bhi. Mainay bila-waja issko bay sharam nahi kaha. Yeh khud saabit kartaa hai har baat. Khuda ka khauf kar aur apni bakwaas par Tauba kar. Kyun apna emaan tabaah kar rahay ho sirf apnay jhoot ko paani denay kay liyey?
You know tumhaari issi aik baat par tumhaarey eeman kay baarey main tumhaarey he jaisay "Ulema" say "Fatwa" haasil kia jaa saktaa hai. Tum bihtar jaantay ho Fatwa tu mil he jaaey gaa. Aur who Fatwa agar main laaa kar yahaan copy kar doon tu kiaa haalat ho gee tumhaari. Doob kay mar jaao gey agar zara bhi sharam hui tu. Kyun keh Fatwa ka charhchaa tu khud kar he chukay ho. Mukar tu saktay nahi ho. But I know tumko sharam hai he nahi.
Tum nay sahi kaha jab tak insane khaamosh rahey uski jahaalat chhupi rehti hai. Tumhaari above harkat nay tumhaari jahaalat sab par khol khol kay bayaan kar dee hai. Zara bhi sharam hai tu Kuffaraa adaa karo iss Takkabar ka aur Fazool tareen baat ka aur Allah say muaafi mango. Tumhaarey haq main ab yahi bihtar hai.
BTW mujhay pata hai tumko sharam tu nahi aani.
Regards to all readers,
Barkhurdar,
Apni umar kay 32 saal ka aik dam say dukh hona shuroo ho gaya and you felt a bit disgrace when your failure personality is discussed but you feel no botheration in keeping on posting bakwaas stuff about others including Zaid Hamid. Kuch sharam karo. Apni baat say khud he koi sabaq seekh lo.
Meray baarey main jo bhi likho uski logic bhi samajh main aati hai. Kisi teray jaisay bey-aqal maulvi ko koi "GHATYA" ya "Do Takkay ka"¨ likh kar uski tail par paaon rakh day tu who aur karey ga kiya. "Hushhhhhhhh" tu keh he diya hua hai tumko. Ab yeh sab tu karo gey hee.
Jo contradiction tum nay dhoondh rakhi hain un par sab tum par hanstay hain. Aik aqal ka andha Zaid Hamid ko kaafir qaraar denay par tula betha hai, aur munaafiq itnaa hai keh jab bhi pooch kehta hai ¡§mainay kab usko Kaafir qaraar diya¡¨. Betaa apni contradiction theek kar sab say pehlay. Jin ko tum contradiction kehtay ho who tumko contradiction iss liyey lagti hai kyun keh tumhara DABBA (ooper waali manzzal) khaali hai yaa kuch aur bhara hua hai uss main.
Agar apni zaat par taras hai tu aqal say socho kia bakwas kartay ho. Aik bhi baat ke tumko samajh nahi, Arbi kay chandd lafaz RATT liyay hain, kuch self-made designations yaad kar liyey hain aur chalay ho roab jhaarnay apni naatawaan jahaalat ka. BTW tum par koi bhi hansay tumko kia faraq parta hai. Tum par tu loge pehlay bhi hanstay thay; we have all the threads alive where your DURGAT has been made time and again by invariably all members. Who sab ghalat thay aur aik tum theek ho Mashallah.
Imam Khumeni sahib ke baat baar baar karo gey bhi tu apni he zaat ko gandaa karo gey. Kuch cheezain aisee hoti hain jo nafrat bharhaati hain. Tum ko aqal ho iss baat ke tu sharm say doob martay because you are already well known for your hate creating yelling aur ruknaa mushkil hai tumhaaray liyey. Mujhay koi aur bhi poochhay gat u main mazeed detail main bata doon ga keh mujh ko PERSONALLY Khumeni sahib say kia kia ikhtelaaf hai. Ikhtelaaf rakhnaa jaaiz hai aur iss main koi gunah nahi. Tum kiya talaash karnaa chaahtay ho iss baat main?? Mujhay tumhaaray saath aur kai aur "ulema" kay saath ......(jo Arbi kay designation ratty hain tum nay).... bhi ikhtelaaf ho saktaa hai. Tum ya who Naoozbillah Farishtay hain ya Prophets hain (Naoozbillah) jo unsay ikhtelaaf nahi ho saktaa??
Aaj tak yeh tu bata nahi sakay "Ulema" kahaan say derive kia hua lafz hai aur baseless discussion kiyey jaa rahay ho. Kia iss kay baarey main search engine say kuch nahi milaa?? Ab ikhtelaaf tu aik doosray say sab ko hai aur ho sakta hai. Iss baat par tum jaisaa ghatya insaan kisi kay eemaan ka fatwa dey gaa kia? Kahaan likhaa hua hai keh kisi "maulvi", "aalim" ya "Ulema" say ikhtelaaf nahi ho saktaa??? Bataao gey zara??? Kyun Khuda banaaey jaa rahey ho chand Maulviyon ko (Naoozbillah).? Abb asaan feham baat par bakwaas jaari rakho gey tu kia ho ga? Damaagh hai ya bhuss bhari hui hai???? Abhi bhi kehtay hai "main nonhaa qaaqaa hoon kisi ko uksaa nahi raha kisi kay khilaaf". Teray jaisee cheez 100 saal bhi pipe main daal do waisee hee rehti hai. Tum ghatya logon kaa tu kaam he yahi hai, chand ratti rattaai baatein dhoondho, logon ko provoke karo aur aag laga do moaashray main aur aman tabaah kar do. Kai loge tumhain sharam dilaa chukay hain par tumko hoti tu aati na.
As far as your non-sense about my words that Khumeni Sahib was not a maulvi is concerned, even by putting in all your efforts you could not hide your immense JAHAALAT. Aur kehtay ho maina yeh saabit kar diyaa mainay who saabit kar diyaa. Betaa tum nay sirf yeh saabit kiyaa hai aaj tak keh tum bay panaah jaahil aur fasaadi tabiat kay maalik ho. Tumhara koi bhi thread uthaa lo, pehlay say aaaj tak, 99% cases main yahi kuch dekhnay ko milay gaa. Oh jaahil aadmi, I said "Khumeni sahib koi maulvi nahi thay; rather he was a great scholar, thinker, social reformer and philospher". Tumhara damaagh agar "scholar" ka matlab nahi samjhtaa to "Ayetullah" ka kahaan say samjhay ga?? Kyun bila-waja ka zore lagaa rahay ho aisee baat par jo tumhaari aqal say bari hai??? Search engines ka stuff tumko aqal nahi dey saktaa; main he nahi aur loge bhi samjha chukay hain tumko. Jhatt say gaey Khumeni Sahib ke talaash main aur baat banaanay ke nakaam koshish kar lee. Yeh saabit kia hai tum nay??? Yahi kuch apnay CMA main bhi saabit kartay ho issi liyay baray laaiq maanay jaatey ho.
Tumhaari expected bak bak (about Ahl-e-Tashi) ka zikar iss liyey kia keh tum say kuch bhi bay aqal harkat expect ke jaa sakti hai. Gham na kar zindagee pari hai abhi. I will tell you whenever you will yell about them on this forum. Time mil gaya tu zara teri puraani harkaton par bhi nazar daura kay dekhoon gaa. Kyun? Because you are a fool who can say anything about any one. Kabhi aalimon ke aulaad ban jaatey ho, kabhi pothohaari khoon daurnay lagta hai tumhaarey ander, kabhi buhat suljha huaa act karnay kee nakaam koshish, kabhi buhat bara economist ban jaaney ka drama aur kabhi manager accounts (jisko yeh nahi pata keh uski company ko kaunsay standards apply hotay hain). Kia ho tum?? Kuch bhi kar saktay ho. Damaagh naa ho tu jo marzi karo.
Madrissay ka syllabus! Kia baaat hai. Bhaai jin madrisson say teray jaisay nikaltay hain unki end product tu nazzar aa rahi hai, ab syllabus ko dekh kay kia kuch nai baat saamnay aa jaaey gee?? And yes, while saying something about ¡§Parrots¡¨ I am neither referring the real noble men of Allah nor a few quality educational institutions. Ab Allah ka nizaam tu chal raha hai naa aur Inshallah chaltay rehna hai. Har koi teray jaisa Jaahil tu nahi. Na he saarey madrissay teray jaisay ¡§parrots¡¨ produce kartay hain. Yahaan baat teri category ke ho rahi hai; don¡¦t mix it up. Agar yeh sirf teri category ka maumla na hota tu main Sarfarz Naeemee sahib ko refer na karta. Kuch tu aqal kar yaa "bay-aqal" honay kaa certificate lay rakha hai?
Takhasus-Fil-Hadees, Mashallah kia baat ke hai bhaai sahib nay. Tum ko pata hai? Chalo maan letay hain. Tum (aur tum jaison) nay kiyaa ukhaar liyaa hai aaj tak pata honay kay baa-wajood??? Agar samjho tu yahi aik sawaal hai. Aik Islmic country main dunyaa kee har buraai peak par maujood hai; aur tum bethay raho issi khushi main keh tumko Takhasus-Fil-Hadees ka pata hai. Kia approach hai. Mujhay Quran say zara yeh Lafaz nikaal kay parhaao please, meharbaani ho gee? Agar Sahi Hadees books say parha do tub hi shukriya. ) Koi naik kaam bhi kia karo. Sirf doodh ka dabba sarak par ragarnay ke awaaz he nikaaltay rehtay ho (a compliment given by "Spectrum" to you).
Aik aur baat, logon ko tu buhat kuch kehtay phir rahay ho; khud ke khabar bhi hai kuch? Tum ko kaun see authority hai mazhabi muamlaat par logon ko defame karnay ke??? Kaun say MUFTI ya Sheikh-ul-Hadees ho tum??? Pidar-e-man sultaan bood kay chakar main fatway diyey jaa rahay ho kiaa??? Abhi end par pohancho tumhaari auqaat wohaan mazeed waazeh ho jaaey gee keh tum ho kiaa.
Hamara dukh yeh hai keh aksar auqaat jo banda kisi aur field main nahi chaltaa who mazhab par qismat aazmaai shuroo kar detaa hai, aur phir sab ka ¡§Ulema¡¨ ban beth-taa hai apnay aap hee. Sab dost ird gird nazar daal kay dekh lein, khud he pata chalay gaa keh Parrots kaisay produce hotay hain. Buhat kam loge hotay hain (I know aisay loge bhi hain; and I have good luck of being in their company) jo qualitative educational back ground rakhtay hain aur religious studies ko adapt kartay hain. Otherwise, aksariyat who hai jo kisi aur field main nahi chal sakti, har taraf say nakaam hoti hai and at the end choose religion to make it their Takhta-e-Mashq (Naoozbillah). Yeh banda iss cheez kee aik misaal hai. Abb iss say aap kia expect kar saktay hain? Yahi joy eh kar raha hai.
Your following lines are showing what you are? Koi bhi parh lay sirf yeh he kaafi hain tumhaaray munh par bey-aqali aur takabbar ke mohar lagaanay kay liye. You said
...............I know k kuch Moderate and progressive /secular log bhee apne bachon ko hifz kerwatain take un k NATWAN kandhon pe bhet k Janat main ja sakain..............
Abb iss say zyada tumhaari zehniyat kahaan clear ho gee? Shukar hai kuch logon ko itnaa tu darr hai keh jannat main jaanaa asaan nahi. Tum jaisay aqal kay andhay nay kiyaa jannat ka ticket katwaya hua hai???????????? Hamein bhi dekhaao zara, ham bhi deedar kar lain uss ticket ka. Kis aalim kee aulaad ho jis nay tumko itni aqal bhi nahi dee????? Kyun unki matti paleed kar rahay ho. Iss say zyada zaleel harkat tum kiaa kar saktay ho? Allah kay Nabi PBUH nai aik sawal kay jawaab main khud apnay baaray main arshaad farmaya keh who apni naikiyon ke wajah say nahi, Allah ke rehmat say Jannat main jaaein gey (Mafhoom of a Hadees). Yeh Hadees ham jaison ko samjhaanay kay liyey he farmaai gai thee. Aur hamara aik Ghatya "Parrot" samjhta hai uss nay ticket ya license liya hua hai jannat ka. Kia ajeeb-ul-khalqat cheez hai yaar yeh bhi. Mainay bila-waja issko bay sharam nahi kaha. Yeh khud saabit kartaa hai har baat. Khuda ka khauf kar aur apni bakwaas par Tauba kar. Kyun apna emaan tabaah kar rahay ho sirf apnay jhoot ko paani denay kay liyey?
You know tumhaari issi aik baat par tumhaarey eeman kay baarey main tumhaarey he jaisay "Ulema" say "Fatwa" haasil kia jaa saktaa hai. Tum bihtar jaantay ho Fatwa tu mil he jaaey gaa. Aur who Fatwa agar main laaa kar yahaan copy kar doon tu kiaa haalat ho gee tumhaari. Doob kay mar jaao gey agar zara bhi sharam hui tu. Kyun keh Fatwa ka charhchaa tu khud kar he chukay ho. Mukar tu saktay nahi ho. But I know tumko sharam hai he nahi.
Tum nay sahi kaha jab tak insane khaamosh rahey uski jahaalat chhupi rehti hai. Tumhaari above harkat nay tumhaari jahaalat sab par khol khol kay bayaan kar dee hai. Zara bhi sharam hai tu Kuffaraa adaa karo iss Takkabar ka aur Fazool tareen baat ka aur Allah say muaafi mango. Tumhaarey haq main ab yahi bihtar hai.
BTW mujhay pata hai tumko sharam tu nahi aani.
Regards to all readers,
