04-02-2010, 10:19 PM
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<br />Dear Toronto Boy I will talk with you on Saturday or Monday.
Filhal baqi questions ko choro see the following links and just give answer of Q-6
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjcCn6kIAF0&playnext_from=TL&videos=Y9nXB6btsCI&feature=sub
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ONXg1_AZ7s&feature=related
http//www.tanzeem.org/announcements/zaid%20hamid2.pdf
Kia 3 Aalim jin main se Dr. Israr ko mere khayal main sabhi mante hain jhoot bol rahe hain ????? Kia Akela Zaid Hamid Sacha ha.
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Awais Sahib
Mayri post ka maqsaad app say bahas karna nahi hay, aur nahi lambi lambi post karkay apna ya readers ka waqt zaya karna hay.
Haan iss tamam soorat-e-haal main jo mayri samjh main aya wo main nay pahlay bhi byan kia tha aur mazeed byan kardia hay. In essence, mayray khayal main iss tamam maslay ki haysiat storm in a cup of tea say zyada nahi hay. Agarcha dosray muslims par iss tarha ki onglian othanay kay buhat bhayanak natayaj nikaltay hain. Yahi baat main samjhanay ki koshish karraha hon. Iss tamam exercise say sirf intishaar payda hosakta hay jo pahlay hi buhat zyada hay aur mazeed barh raha hay. Iss baat ka andaza iss baat say bhi lagaya jasakta hay kay sirf chand dino kay under iss muaamlay ki aaar main (mayray khyal main) kisi teesray fareeq (3rd party) nay aik jayad aalim ko Qatal kar dya hay aur oska ilzam aik doosray muslim (Zaid Hamid) par jaaraha hay. Nateeja kia hay, Pakistan aur muslims kay dusman apni apni dushmania iss maslay kay pichay nikaal rahay hain.
Agar iss baat ko mazeed aagay barhaya gya to aagay bhi yahi nataij niklain ga.
Mayray khyal main mayra point of view readers par kafi clear ho chuka hay. Agar main nay mazeed zaroorat samjhi, interest aur time hoa to mazeed likh donga.
Wassalam
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Dear Toronto Boy
No Aalim of any sect support so called Terhrik e Taliban Pakistan this is on record that even Mullah Umer and former leaders of Talban led Afghan Government have clearly denied any link with Tehrik âe-Taliban Pakistan beside it the ex official of Taliban led govt. also criticized the suicide attack by Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan. The unanimous opinion of Ulema has come which declares suicide attacks as against the teachings of Islamic. Gen. Hameed Gull and Gen. Hamid Navaz, ex interior minister, have opinion that India and Israel were involved in swat beside it many intelligence reports are the proof of this fact. During Swat operation armed forced caught many people who were non-Muslims. Kuch dead bodies jo mili hain fighters ki wo circumcision k baghair theen. The illiteracy, unemployment, poverty were major causes of Swat trouble. The foreign intelligence agencies use these social evil and exploit the religious sentiments of local people beside all the drown attacks by U.S forces played work of oil on fire in then prevailing situation.
There is need of analysis of foreign policy regarding U.S and Afghanistan and U-Turn in Afghan policy of Pakistan after 9/11. I donât want to say anything for or against Taliban Govt. but example of Iran is before us. Although Iran Govt. has reservations and conflicts with Taliban Govt. but Iran did not become the part of that exercise rather Irani Govt. and people had a desire of winning of war by Taliban.
(which was much difficult in then prevailing situation)
Simple America conquered Afghanistan after US control at Afghanistan India established relation with karzai Govt. The political analysts were raising issue of establishing number of high commissions by India in Afghanistan . These high commissioners were involved in the swat valley. How some non trained people can fight for many months with the most disciplined army of the world??. How these so called Taliban had got such heavy weapons ???
Ek waqay swat k hawalay se likh don hamare muhale k madarse main ek larka parhta ha jis ka taluq swat se ha us k eek relative swat ki ek masjid ke Imam hain. Imam sahib ne ek bar Jume k khutbe main swat k Taliban pe tanqeed kee sakht alfaz main. Raat ko un Aalim ka saga Bhanja jo Taliban ka saathi tha aya aur bare muadib andaz main arz kia kâ Mamoon Jan kal Sabah Fajir kee Namaz ke baad apko Zebah ker dia Jay gaâ. Beherhall raton raat jerga munaqad hua aur bohat sare mouzizzeen ko beech main dala gaya tab un aalim ke jan bakhshy huyee.
As far as Zaid Hamid is concerned no one kicks a dead dog have you seen his program at Minare Pakistan in which only few dozens people could be seen including camera men. I think this issue has resolved bulk apne mantaqi anjam ko phonch gaya. After all my reservations about him I donât think Zaid Hamid as Non Muslim.
At this thread I was compelled to use rough language ( by continuous personal attacks for last two months)I am ignoring personal attack for last two month not only at this thread but also at many other threads. This fact will be acknowledged by all of you that I am showing patience for many months but my tolerance was seemed as my weakness. Many people (i.e Ajnabi,Great Khan,Dard, Schuaeb,ysir,tariq sohail and June 23 a.m) pointed out misbehave of a member but all efforts were remain fruitless. After all in future I will try my best to avoid rough language.
Dear Toronto Boy
Difference of opinion apni jaga main ap k opinions ka ehtram kerta hun differences to family members k dermian tak hote hain lekin ikhtilafe ray ko zati dushmanion main tabdeel nhn kerna chaye. Mazee main mere ap k sath bohat achay taluqat rahay hain we never involved in personal attack on each other but at this thread main ne observe kia ke apne baaz jaghon pe thoree sakht zuban use kee. Anyhow I expect a good relation with you in future.
Thanks and warm regards,
Awais Aftab
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, san" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by awaisaftab</i>
<br />Dear Toronto Boy I will talk with you on Saturday or Monday.
Filhal baqi questions ko choro see the following links and just give answer of Q-6
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjcCn6kIAF0&playnext_from=TL&videos=Y9nXB6btsCI&feature=sub
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ONXg1_AZ7s&feature=related
http//www.tanzeem.org/announcements/zaid%20hamid2.pdf
Kia 3 Aalim jin main se Dr. Israr ko mere khayal main sabhi mante hain jhoot bol rahe hain ????? Kia Akela Zaid Hamid Sacha ha.
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Awais Sahib
Mayri post ka maqsaad app say bahas karna nahi hay, aur nahi lambi lambi post karkay apna ya readers ka waqt zaya karna hay.
Haan iss tamam soorat-e-haal main jo mayri samjh main aya wo main nay pahlay bhi byan kia tha aur mazeed byan kardia hay. In essence, mayray khayal main iss tamam maslay ki haysiat storm in a cup of tea say zyada nahi hay. Agarcha dosray muslims par iss tarha ki onglian othanay kay buhat bhayanak natayaj nikaltay hain. Yahi baat main samjhanay ki koshish karraha hon. Iss tamam exercise say sirf intishaar payda hosakta hay jo pahlay hi buhat zyada hay aur mazeed barh raha hay. Iss baat ka andaza iss baat say bhi lagaya jasakta hay kay sirf chand dino kay under iss muaamlay ki aaar main (mayray khyal main) kisi teesray fareeq (3rd party) nay aik jayad aalim ko Qatal kar dya hay aur oska ilzam aik doosray muslim (Zaid Hamid) par jaaraha hay. Nateeja kia hay, Pakistan aur muslims kay dusman apni apni dushmania iss maslay kay pichay nikaal rahay hain.
Agar iss baat ko mazeed aagay barhaya gya to aagay bhi yahi nataij niklain ga.
Mayray khyal main mayra point of view readers par kafi clear ho chuka hay. Agar main nay mazeed zaroorat samjhi, interest aur time hoa to mazeed likh donga.
Wassalam
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Dear Toronto Boy
No Aalim of any sect support so called Terhrik e Taliban Pakistan this is on record that even Mullah Umer and former leaders of Talban led Afghan Government have clearly denied any link with Tehrik âe-Taliban Pakistan beside it the ex official of Taliban led govt. also criticized the suicide attack by Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan. The unanimous opinion of Ulema has come which declares suicide attacks as against the teachings of Islamic. Gen. Hameed Gull and Gen. Hamid Navaz, ex interior minister, have opinion that India and Israel were involved in swat beside it many intelligence reports are the proof of this fact. During Swat operation armed forced caught many people who were non-Muslims. Kuch dead bodies jo mili hain fighters ki wo circumcision k baghair theen. The illiteracy, unemployment, poverty were major causes of Swat trouble. The foreign intelligence agencies use these social evil and exploit the religious sentiments of local people beside all the drown attacks by U.S forces played work of oil on fire in then prevailing situation.
There is need of analysis of foreign policy regarding U.S and Afghanistan and U-Turn in Afghan policy of Pakistan after 9/11. I donât want to say anything for or against Taliban Govt. but example of Iran is before us. Although Iran Govt. has reservations and conflicts with Taliban Govt. but Iran did not become the part of that exercise rather Irani Govt. and people had a desire of winning of war by Taliban.
(which was much difficult in then prevailing situation)
Simple America conquered Afghanistan after US control at Afghanistan India established relation with karzai Govt. The political analysts were raising issue of establishing number of high commissions by India in Afghanistan . These high commissioners were involved in the swat valley. How some non trained people can fight for many months with the most disciplined army of the world??. How these so called Taliban had got such heavy weapons ???
Ek waqay swat k hawalay se likh don hamare muhale k madarse main ek larka parhta ha jis ka taluq swat se ha us k eek relative swat ki ek masjid ke Imam hain. Imam sahib ne ek bar Jume k khutbe main swat k Taliban pe tanqeed kee sakht alfaz main. Raat ko un Aalim ka saga Bhanja jo Taliban ka saathi tha aya aur bare muadib andaz main arz kia kâ Mamoon Jan kal Sabah Fajir kee Namaz ke baad apko Zebah ker dia Jay gaâ. Beherhall raton raat jerga munaqad hua aur bohat sare mouzizzeen ko beech main dala gaya tab un aalim ke jan bakhshy huyee.
As far as Zaid Hamid is concerned no one kicks a dead dog have you seen his program at Minare Pakistan in which only few dozens people could be seen including camera men. I think this issue has resolved bulk apne mantaqi anjam ko phonch gaya. After all my reservations about him I donât think Zaid Hamid as Non Muslim.
At this thread I was compelled to use rough language ( by continuous personal attacks for last two months)I am ignoring personal attack for last two month not only at this thread but also at many other threads. This fact will be acknowledged by all of you that I am showing patience for many months but my tolerance was seemed as my weakness. Many people (i.e Ajnabi,Great Khan,Dard, Schuaeb,ysir,tariq sohail and June 23 a.m) pointed out misbehave of a member but all efforts were remain fruitless. After all in future I will try my best to avoid rough language.
Dear Toronto Boy
Difference of opinion apni jaga main ap k opinions ka ehtram kerta hun differences to family members k dermian tak hote hain lekin ikhtilafe ray ko zati dushmanion main tabdeel nhn kerna chaye. Mazee main mere ap k sath bohat achay taluqat rahay hain we never involved in personal attack on each other but at this thread main ne observe kia ke apne baaz jaghon pe thoree sakht zuban use kee. Anyhow I expect a good relation with you in future.
Thanks and warm regards,
Awais Aftab
