04-03-2010, 03:01 PM
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<br />Torontoboy Brother,
Now you will see some further links to prove kay "Ulema" have consensus on Yousaf as well Zaid, and that consensus is so-called Ijmah-e-Ummah.
Aap nay sach tu bolaa hai laikan ho sakta hai aap kay baarey main bhi aik post kisi thread par aa jaaey "parrots" ke taraf say. Aap ko waqat say pehlay zehni taur par tayyaar karney kay liye kuch rattay rattaaaey expected paragraphs-
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When all authorities are vested with "Ulema", then supreme court or Federal Shariat Court does not make any sense. Why you are not aware of Ulema' authorities, vision and role?? Are you a true muslim? Or a Muslim first of all? Aap Yousaf ke aur Zaid ke tarafdaari kar rahey hein? Kiaa aap eeman ke sahi haalat main hain?? Kiaa aap unkay follower nahi?? Kiaa aap jannat main jana chaahtay hain jo yaqeenan aap jaisay haqeer maghrab zada logon kay liye aasaan nahi?? Tu phir aap woh karein jo ham kehtay hain. Apnaa eemaan explain karein sab say pehlay. Aap supreme court ko Ulema par fauqiyat kaisay dey saktay hain?? Aap tu maghrab zada lagtay hain, moderate/secular minded.
Abhi aap say "explanation maangi jaa rahi hai" aap kay eeman ka faisla nahi kia ja raha. Ab iss dauran koi parwana aap ko qatal kar dey tu Subhanallah.
Do you know "ulema" have the authority to call for explanation? Aap forann say pehlay Ulema kay qadmon main gir jaaein aur apnay kiye ke muaafi talab karein. Allah ka kia farman hai baad mein dekha jaaey ga laikan Ulema pehlay khud he nimat lain gey aap say. Aur aap ka wohi haal karein gey jo aap jaisay pehlon kaa kiaa hai.
Agar judges, commissioners aur police etc explanation maang saktay hain tu "Ulema" kyun nahi?? Bhaai khud socho?? Woh bhi aisay mulak main jahaan Govt khud sahi islaami na ho.
Lehaza aap girgara kar Ulema say muaafi aur bakhshish talab karein.
Iss post ka maqsad logon ko aap kee eemani haalat aur "fitna angaiz" baaton kay baarey main alert karnaa hai aur kuch nahi. Yeh koi Fatwa nahi. Bey shak ham nay saabit kar diya hai keh aap Yousaf Kazzab kay follower hain laikan phir bhi ham aap ko kaafir nahi kehtay. Bass logon ko alert kiaa hai ham nay. Aap foran explanation provide karein har Ulema ko.
Ab 3-4 pages ke behas kay baad (aur invariablly buhat say logon say jootay khaanay kay baad) ham keh dein gey keh iss post ka maqsad poora ho gaya aur aap maazi ka hissa ban gaey.
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Allah muaaf rakhay "parrots" say. Yahaan kisi kaa eeman mehfooz nahi.
Regards,
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Funny and amusing.
U sound a bit like Shaikh Rasheed here.Mustaqbil ka naqsha hi khench dia!
<br />Torontoboy Brother,
Now you will see some further links to prove kay "Ulema" have consensus on Yousaf as well Zaid, and that consensus is so-called Ijmah-e-Ummah.
Aap nay sach tu bolaa hai laikan ho sakta hai aap kay baarey main bhi aik post kisi thread par aa jaaey "parrots" ke taraf say. Aap ko waqat say pehlay zehni taur par tayyaar karney kay liye kuch rattay rattaaaey expected paragraphs-
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When all authorities are vested with "Ulema", then supreme court or Federal Shariat Court does not make any sense. Why you are not aware of Ulema' authorities, vision and role?? Are you a true muslim? Or a Muslim first of all? Aap Yousaf ke aur Zaid ke tarafdaari kar rahey hein? Kiaa aap eeman ke sahi haalat main hain?? Kiaa aap unkay follower nahi?? Kiaa aap jannat main jana chaahtay hain jo yaqeenan aap jaisay haqeer maghrab zada logon kay liye aasaan nahi?? Tu phir aap woh karein jo ham kehtay hain. Apnaa eemaan explain karein sab say pehlay. Aap supreme court ko Ulema par fauqiyat kaisay dey saktay hain?? Aap tu maghrab zada lagtay hain, moderate/secular minded.
Abhi aap say "explanation maangi jaa rahi hai" aap kay eeman ka faisla nahi kia ja raha. Ab iss dauran koi parwana aap ko qatal kar dey tu Subhanallah.
Do you know "ulema" have the authority to call for explanation? Aap forann say pehlay Ulema kay qadmon main gir jaaein aur apnay kiye ke muaafi talab karein. Allah ka kia farman hai baad mein dekha jaaey ga laikan Ulema pehlay khud he nimat lain gey aap say. Aur aap ka wohi haal karein gey jo aap jaisay pehlon kaa kiaa hai.
Agar judges, commissioners aur police etc explanation maang saktay hain tu "Ulema" kyun nahi?? Bhaai khud socho?? Woh bhi aisay mulak main jahaan Govt khud sahi islaami na ho.
Lehaza aap girgara kar Ulema say muaafi aur bakhshish talab karein.
Iss post ka maqsad logon ko aap kee eemani haalat aur "fitna angaiz" baaton kay baarey main alert karnaa hai aur kuch nahi. Yeh koi Fatwa nahi. Bey shak ham nay saabit kar diya hai keh aap Yousaf Kazzab kay follower hain laikan phir bhi ham aap ko kaafir nahi kehtay. Bass logon ko alert kiaa hai ham nay. Aap foran explanation provide karein har Ulema ko.
Ab 3-4 pages ke behas kay baad (aur invariablly buhat say logon say jootay khaanay kay baad) ham keh dein gey keh iss post ka maqsad poora ho gaya aur aap maazi ka hissa ban gaey.
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Allah muaaf rakhay "parrots" say. Yahaan kisi kaa eeman mehfooz nahi.
Regards,
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Funny and amusing.
U sound a bit like Shaikh Rasheed here.Mustaqbil ka naqsha hi khench dia!