11-26-2010, 08:28 PM
Ameen,
Dear Kamran Sb,
1. I fully agreed "Non-Musts don't collide with Sharia and till the time these are within the permitted practices, these are supposed to enhance Allah's love and Rehmat for a human being. However, these should not form part of Bidaat which is another topic".
2. I may not fully agreed with a para from your second last post "BUT you can rarely (rather very rarely) find someone praying only and only and only due to Love (Ishq) of Allah with no greed of deen or dunya and Jannah or Jahnum. This sounds weird but is a fact"
This is very close to a typical statement given by Sufias (La Mehboba Ill Lallah, La Maqsooda Ill LAllah)(They love only Allah and they want only Allah despite the hope and fear of Jannat n Jahanam respectively)
In my view the persons who most love Allah in the highest category of love were Prophet Muhammad SW and Anbiya e Kiram A.S and nobody in this world never ever could claim that he loves Allah more than the holly Prophet Muhammad SW and Anbiya A.S. So, if I agree with your statement then I would have to be agree that Muhammad SW and other Anbiya A.S was offering prayers,doing Abidah n weeping was due to Ishq e Elahi only not for Jahnam or Jannat?. In my view this is not correct as this idea confront with Holy Quran and Sahih Ahadith. e.g
While talking about Hazrat Yonus A.S and Hazrat Zikriya o Yahya A.S Allah said in Sorah Anbiya 21, Ayat 90 " o We answered his call, and We bestowed upon him Yahya, and cured his wife (to bear a child) for him. Verily, they used to hasten on to do good deeds, and they used to call on Us with hope and fear, and used to humble themselves before Us".(I think that was a hope of Jannah and fear of Jahanum or hope of acceptance of Dua or fear of rejection of Duaa)
Further it is cleared,
Jabir ibn Abdullah narrated that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhe wa sallam, said, â(I saw in a dream that) I entered Paradise, and behold, there was a palace built of gold. I asked, âWhose is this palace?â They (the angels) replied, âFor a man from the Quraysh.â So I thought it might be I, so I asked, âAnd who is he?â They said, âUmar Ibnul Khattab.â Nothing stopped me form entering it except your Ghirah (sense of honor).â Umar said, âMy Ghirah would never be offended by you, O Messenger of Allah.â (Bukhari and Muslim)
Furthermore,
Muslim reports from Aishah (ra) that there was a solar eclipse in the time of the Messenger (sw) and he said, âWhilst I was standing here I saw everything that you have been promised, I even saw myself picking some of the fruits of Paradise, when you saw me stepping forward. And I saw Hellfire, parts of it consuming other parts, when you saw me stepping backwardâ.
From a few reference above I think that Prophets who love Allah more than any other creature do have feelings of hope of Jannah its fruits and Palaces and stepping forward for them and also do have fear of hellfire and stepping backward for it and love of Allah almighty was off course there.
Therefore, i dont agree with the saying that some one have La Matlooba Ill Allah and La Maqsooda IllAllah and he pray only due to Ishq e Elahi and dont have hope for Jannah n fear of Jahanum as he couldn't be greater than Prophets.
3. As far as I know about Hazrat Awais Qarni R.A His full name is Uways b. `Ãmir b. Juzâ b. Mâlik b. Murâd al-Qarnî. He embraced Islam during the lifetime of the Prophet (peace be upon him), but he did not meet him. For this reason, he is not a Companion, but a Successor of Companions called Companion. He died in the Battle of Siffîn in the year 37 AH.(Fighting against Hazrat Muawia R.A from Hazrat Ali R.A side)
There are three Ahadiths about him that could be claimed as authentic (By Mohadisin).
`Umar b. al-Khattâb relates [Sahîh Muslim (2542)]
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said âThere will come to you a person from Yemen who will be called Uways. He would have no one in Yemen except his mother. He will have been afflicted with leprosy and will have supplicated to Allah about it and He will have cured him except for a patch the size of a silver or gold coin. Whoever amongst you meets him should ask him to supplicate for your forgiveness.â
In another narration from `Umar b. al-Khattâb, it reads [Sahîh Muslim (2542)]
I heard the Prophet (peace be upon him) say âIndeed, the best of the Successors will be a man called Uways. He will have his mother and he will have been afflicted with leprosy. So ask him to supplicate for your forgiveness.â
In another narration from `Umar b. al-Khattâb, it reads [Sahîh Muslim (2542)]
I heard Allahâs Messenger (peace be upon him) say âThere will come to you Uways b. `Ãmir along with the people arriving as reinforcements from Yemen. He will be of Murâd then of Qarn. He will have been afflicted with leprosy and will have recovered except for a patch the size of a silver coin. He will have a mother whom he will honor. If he swears by Allah, Allah will bring his oath to fruition. Therefore, if you are able to have him supplicate for your forgiveness, then do so.â
This is what we have that is authentically narrated about Uways al-Qarnî R.A. Other narrations are inauthentic. There are indeed quite a number of hadîth about him that have been fabricated.(We can check that other ahadiths about Him are included in "ilsilah al-Ahâdîth al-Da`îfah wa al-Mawdû`ah (4/198 # 1707) and (5/234 # 2209)by Albani along with reason to be called as zaeef or fabricated)
There is a full body of knowledge that deals with the study of narrators and which facilitates the distinguishing of false hadîth from authentic ones.
Hazrat Awais R.A mostly quoted by Ahle Tashee people (as being fought for Hazrat Ali R.A being Shian e Ali R.A) or by Sufi Islam followers to start their silsila jat who believe that Zaeef Ahadith regarding NON MUSTS could be used as Hujjat for make the community more pious and who also believe upon Wahdat ul Wajood and Wahdat Ul Shahood as stories about Him (true of false)are most suited for their basic ideologies and preachings.
Allah knows the best.
Regards,
Dear Kamran Sb,
1. I fully agreed "Non-Musts don't collide with Sharia and till the time these are within the permitted practices, these are supposed to enhance Allah's love and Rehmat for a human being. However, these should not form part of Bidaat which is another topic".
2. I may not fully agreed with a para from your second last post "BUT you can rarely (rather very rarely) find someone praying only and only and only due to Love (Ishq) of Allah with no greed of deen or dunya and Jannah or Jahnum. This sounds weird but is a fact"
This is very close to a typical statement given by Sufias (La Mehboba Ill Lallah, La Maqsooda Ill LAllah)(They love only Allah and they want only Allah despite the hope and fear of Jannat n Jahanam respectively)
In my view the persons who most love Allah in the highest category of love were Prophet Muhammad SW and Anbiya e Kiram A.S and nobody in this world never ever could claim that he loves Allah more than the holly Prophet Muhammad SW and Anbiya A.S. So, if I agree with your statement then I would have to be agree that Muhammad SW and other Anbiya A.S was offering prayers,doing Abidah n weeping was due to Ishq e Elahi only not for Jahnam or Jannat?. In my view this is not correct as this idea confront with Holy Quran and Sahih Ahadith. e.g
While talking about Hazrat Yonus A.S and Hazrat Zikriya o Yahya A.S Allah said in Sorah Anbiya 21, Ayat 90 " o We answered his call, and We bestowed upon him Yahya, and cured his wife (to bear a child) for him. Verily, they used to hasten on to do good deeds, and they used to call on Us with hope and fear, and used to humble themselves before Us".(I think that was a hope of Jannah and fear of Jahanum or hope of acceptance of Dua or fear of rejection of Duaa)
Further it is cleared,
Jabir ibn Abdullah narrated that the Messenger of Allah, sallallahu alayhe wa sallam, said, â(I saw in a dream that) I entered Paradise, and behold, there was a palace built of gold. I asked, âWhose is this palace?â They (the angels) replied, âFor a man from the Quraysh.â So I thought it might be I, so I asked, âAnd who is he?â They said, âUmar Ibnul Khattab.â Nothing stopped me form entering it except your Ghirah (sense of honor).â Umar said, âMy Ghirah would never be offended by you, O Messenger of Allah.â (Bukhari and Muslim)
Furthermore,
Muslim reports from Aishah (ra) that there was a solar eclipse in the time of the Messenger (sw) and he said, âWhilst I was standing here I saw everything that you have been promised, I even saw myself picking some of the fruits of Paradise, when you saw me stepping forward. And I saw Hellfire, parts of it consuming other parts, when you saw me stepping backwardâ.
From a few reference above I think that Prophets who love Allah more than any other creature do have feelings of hope of Jannah its fruits and Palaces and stepping forward for them and also do have fear of hellfire and stepping backward for it and love of Allah almighty was off course there.
Therefore, i dont agree with the saying that some one have La Matlooba Ill Allah and La Maqsooda IllAllah and he pray only due to Ishq e Elahi and dont have hope for Jannah n fear of Jahanum as he couldn't be greater than Prophets.
3. As far as I know about Hazrat Awais Qarni R.A His full name is Uways b. `Ãmir b. Juzâ b. Mâlik b. Murâd al-Qarnî. He embraced Islam during the lifetime of the Prophet (peace be upon him), but he did not meet him. For this reason, he is not a Companion, but a Successor of Companions called Companion. He died in the Battle of Siffîn in the year 37 AH.(Fighting against Hazrat Muawia R.A from Hazrat Ali R.A side)
There are three Ahadiths about him that could be claimed as authentic (By Mohadisin).
`Umar b. al-Khattâb relates [Sahîh Muslim (2542)]
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said âThere will come to you a person from Yemen who will be called Uways. He would have no one in Yemen except his mother. He will have been afflicted with leprosy and will have supplicated to Allah about it and He will have cured him except for a patch the size of a silver or gold coin. Whoever amongst you meets him should ask him to supplicate for your forgiveness.â
In another narration from `Umar b. al-Khattâb, it reads [Sahîh Muslim (2542)]
I heard the Prophet (peace be upon him) say âIndeed, the best of the Successors will be a man called Uways. He will have his mother and he will have been afflicted with leprosy. So ask him to supplicate for your forgiveness.â
In another narration from `Umar b. al-Khattâb, it reads [Sahîh Muslim (2542)]
I heard Allahâs Messenger (peace be upon him) say âThere will come to you Uways b. `Ãmir along with the people arriving as reinforcements from Yemen. He will be of Murâd then of Qarn. He will have been afflicted with leprosy and will have recovered except for a patch the size of a silver coin. He will have a mother whom he will honor. If he swears by Allah, Allah will bring his oath to fruition. Therefore, if you are able to have him supplicate for your forgiveness, then do so.â
This is what we have that is authentically narrated about Uways al-Qarnî R.A. Other narrations are inauthentic. There are indeed quite a number of hadîth about him that have been fabricated.(We can check that other ahadiths about Him are included in "ilsilah al-Ahâdîth al-Da`îfah wa al-Mawdû`ah (4/198 # 1707) and (5/234 # 2209)by Albani along with reason to be called as zaeef or fabricated)
There is a full body of knowledge that deals with the study of narrators and which facilitates the distinguishing of false hadîth from authentic ones.
Hazrat Awais R.A mostly quoted by Ahle Tashee people (as being fought for Hazrat Ali R.A being Shian e Ali R.A) or by Sufi Islam followers to start their silsila jat who believe that Zaeef Ahadith regarding NON MUSTS could be used as Hujjat for make the community more pious and who also believe upon Wahdat ul Wajood and Wahdat Ul Shahood as stories about Him (true of false)are most suited for their basic ideologies and preachings.
Allah knows the best.
Regards,