Most Pleasing Step Of New Government

[kamranACA]

Dear,

This is exactly what I mentioned as commencement of a policy to fix such elements through politically managed tacts.

If you wish to believe whatever innocense these people express then you are living in PARADISE. I don't define such paradise. It's quite natural that every sinful says that he has done nothing and he is not responsible of any thing.

You see through NRO so manys involved in dishonesty, looting, misutilizing, criminality, extra judicial killings, bala bala.....so on.... have been made milk washed. They all say they have done nothing. Zardaari is the most innocent at the moment. I personally am a witness of his very low class dishonesties and bribe takings from our clients when he was a minister of environment. Then comes Nawaz / Shehbaz. This pair is also most innocent. Altaf is the greatest innocent of the world. Every one knows it. Likewise every one else including General Yahya Khan, General Zia-ul-Haq, Field Martial Ayub Khan, Sikander Mirza, General Azam, Chief Justice Iftikhar Ch., and all other big and small names are the innocents. Idon't understand that if these all are and were innocents then who is culprit? Do you believe any of the followers/believers of these big names can agree that their leader/favorate person is criminal or sinful? Similar is your condition. You know our minds don't even accept the facts which are not looking favorable to our hearts.

If you want to see what these people are, study their history and origination. Study their crimes and harassment in the area. But please study the analysis of some fair persons. If you wish to explore ask some one really pertaining to Swat that what are these people. If you don't find their criminal and illegal acts as criminal or illegal, I cannot do anything for you.

I wonder if you feel that crossing the border without passport, visa or govt permission is not an illegal or criminal act. I wonder if you feel bomb explosions are not sinful acts. I wonder if you feel establishing illegal radio stations is not a criminal act. I wonder if you feel making big reserves of amunition are not criminal act. I wonder if you feel that killing / kidnapping our own army men and other general people is not criminal. I wonder if you feel that making private armies/jehad forces within a soverign country is not a criminal / illegal act. I wonder if you feel making state within state is not a criminal act. I wonder if you feel that some people should implement forcibly their own (isolated) school of thought on others, is not illegal.

These people are as much criminal as one can imagine. Believe or not believe, it is of course up to you.

I know it is totally wastage of time to struck my head against your dark age mindset but I narrated this post just to make the concept clear for the readers.


Regards,


KAMRAN.

[Muhammad Amir]

I can't do anything for a person who do not wish to understand things, your propaganda against Mujahedeen is apparent from your first post at this forum so keep doing this because you are living in a JAMHOORI country and this is your JAMHOORI right but mind it that those who are fighting with KUFFAR in the way of ALLAH(S.W.T) are the most loveable people of ALLAH(S.W.T) and last but not the least "JO SHAKHS QURRON-E-OULA TAK TO AITRAZ KARNY SAY NA CHORAY WOH AJJ KAY MUJAHEDDEN KO KAISAY BAKHSH SAKTA HAY".

My all prayers are with you!

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

[israrhere]

Amir bhai I am as much emotional regarding Islam and Shariat as you are , but the reasons perceived by you as the basis of my disagreement with them are totally wrong.It has nothing to do with the theology of jamat-e-islami.I do have respect and sympathy for them bcoz they seems to be a bit sincere but what I tried to explain above is the reality and it was never just to follow their theology but offcourse I should follow,what Islam says and not what Maulana Fazlullah says.
I personally know his supporters overthere which I have already explaind about in another thread.His supporters were never more than 20% and now they have no more active supporters and their dormant supporters are not more than 10%.Why it reduced...?It must have reasons.And you don't know the past record of this Fazlulah which I can't put in here.And the purpose for which they established those radio stations was never to serve Islam.
And I admit that govt agencies were involved in all this game, which is apparent but it was initiated by those people and as such they are indirectly responsible for the destruction so caused.

Regards,

[israrhere]

Kamran bhai very nice analysis of our politicians...[)]

[Muhammad Amir]

Actual storey evolves around the concept on what Allah(S.W.T) asks us to do and what we think as better for us for example Allah(S.W.T) prohibits the dealings of RIBA(Interest) and Allah says that he knows better than you but some of us say that although Riba is prohibited but what can we do?(Soud kay baghair kon sa kam hota hay??) some of us are extra enlightened and say that this is profit/markup not interest.

But Allah(S.W.T) says that Riba is Haram and every dealing of it will bring you nearer to "Jahnnam", but it is the nature of all humans that they do what they think is better for them.

When In Afghanistan in 1994 Taliban started to implement islamic laws in afghanistan they faced lot of difficulties not because of America or Israel or India but it was just because of their own people who were scared of the implementation of Devine laws, such people wish to live as per their styles not as per the system defined by Allah(S.W.T) ,I am not saying that Taliban were/are "MASOOMEEN" they are certainly not and there might be and there are certainly some loopholes in their system but it is not the right way to abuse them by saying "scoundrals", "dark age mindset" and "criminals", using these words against Momeneen is not a new thing for us our history is full of these types of incidents and right from the inception of Islam these things had happened even people abused our AQA(Salallahu Allihe Wassalam) and mind you muslims can never be defeated by Kuffar unless some Mirs(Mir Jaffer and Sadiq help them).

Majlis-e-Shoura of Saudi Ulama-e-Kram has issued their Fatwa on the system of Taliban as the best Islamic system and not only this but they also said that Afghanistan is the only Immarat-e-Islamia in the lot of 54 muslims countries.

If you people do not believe on Saudi Ulema then i am sorry to say that you are doing nothing with anyone but with your Akhirat.

Those who are abusing Taliban because of their specific agenda are doing nothing but making worse with their Akhirat.

May Allah(S.W.T) protect us from the propaganda of America and Israel and may Allah(S.W.T) give us eyes to see reality and Sohbat of Neek people.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

[Muhammad Amir]

I am supporting Taliban just because of the truth and i am and i will support them because they are MAZLOOM they are under the offence of American military, Pakistani Military and Afghnai Commnunist Military, whatever they are doing is just for their defence, they have never offenced any country in their government.

One day Insha-Allah they will be the conqueror of Amrica, all of my prayers are with them, Our Prophet(Salallahu Allihe Wassalam) said "AlKufre Millatan Wahidah(Kufar sab ka sab aik hay)" and our Allah(S.W.T) and Prophet(Salallahu Allihe Wassalam) told us to do Jehad against ZULM and Offence of Kuffar.

Jehad is the defence against Offence it is not an offence.

[Imran]

Dear Aamir

I am glad to see that atleast there is one person in the forum who can take stand for the true Muslims. Infact these moderate Muslims are unable to understand all this. They always try to find ways but our religion (ISLAM)does not allow us to compromise on the basic principles. I am unable to understand that why people are against taliban. Yeh wohi taliban they jinnay inni logo nay apni baytion k rishtay daye sir ankhon par bithaya aur aaj yehi loog in ko extrements aur terrorist k nam daytay hey. Actually in logo may himat he nahi k yeh sach ko tasleem kar sakay. agar in may say kissi ka beta bomb say ur jaye kissi k ma bewa ban jaye tu innay ahsas ho k jo kuch sawat north waziristan may ho raha hey woh ghalt hey.

Regards
Imran

[Muhammad Amir]

Dear Imran,

I am glad to see that at least one person is supporting the truth and i thank you for your support.

Some people here are talking about the Suicidal attacks and they are saying these suicidal attacks are committed as offence but i have to clear them one thing and that this is some other debate that whether these suicide attacks are allowed or not and if they are allowed then upto what extent these attacks are allowed but these people are like those who see every thing from one side they have seen that mujahedeen are committing suicide attacks but they didn't see the ZULM of Pakistani forces, they are seeing that people from SAWAT are committing suicide attacks but they didn't see how many BE-GUNAH people are being martayered by these AMRECI GHULAMS.

Suicide attacks are the reaction of PERVAZE's policies and Mujahedden have to turn their efforts from America to Pak army the sole reason behind this is that our army is trying to make people affraid and detter from Jehad.

Can you believe that after 2001 Pakistan army has lost their JAWANS more then American Army men.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir

[israrhere]

Dears,
Here is a misconception which I have to clear that those who are being involved in suicidal attacks are never residents of swat,I am not concerned wheather these attacks are for the purpose of offence or defence but one thing is clear to me that most of the active supporters of this group(in swat)were either from waziristan or were foreigners.
And dear Imran who is saying that, what is going on in Swat is good,infact I have already said that the role of govt agencies is apparent in all this and offcourse the role of Shumal Ittehad can also not be ignored but one should also open his eyes to see and realize the ill doings of these groups.I personally know some of those molvies who openly support suicidal attacks (and don't do it by theirselves).So here is again a confusion that who are involved in these attacks,if not taliban then why they support these attacks and say that it is a shortcut to jannah?
Islam has not given them any right to abuse other people from the loudspeakers and Radio stations.One can visit with me and see the reality...

Regards,

[kamranACA]

Dear Israr,


There are many people who makes the things Taboos on the name of the religion. Islam in fact eliminated this theory. We can quote hundreds of examples.

The person who asked Hazrat Umar Bin Khattaab R.Z. about the extra cloth sheet was not penalied. Instead he was given the comments that until the people like you would be there in the Ummah, this Ummah will never be destroyed.

Every one can check what the language was used by the man who openly alleged the KHALIFA-TUL-MUSLIMEEN and AMEER-UL-MOMINEEN Raziallah Ta'ala. No one told him that Naoozbillah he is supposed to fall in hell. No one told him that he is living in democratic system so he can speak such language (even it was not such an davnced democracy as we see now-a-days)otherwise so much could be done against him. Rather it was said that the Ummah will never divert and destroy until the people like him are there in Ummah.

So the language or allegations or other differences regarding common men or even for noble men of this era have no meaning and have nothing to do with hell or heaven. Only the prophets were innocents. Every one should mind it. People merely wish to mix up the things for their own satisfaction.

The issue is to understand the truth and not merely closing the eyes for the sake of few people. Islam no where prohibited from thinking, analysing, exploring, expressing and finding the truth. Instead it was the major difference in christianity and Islam. Christianity asked to listen and believe. Islam asked to listen, analyse, find truth and then believe. It's not merely about religion. Rather, this guideline is for every thing.

But whenever you will turn to such sort of people they will at the outset ask you to close down the minds and eliminate the thoughts. Whoever dares to speak about the dark side of such people is supposed to be designated as American Ghulam and Kaafir and Dozkhi and bala bala. What a mess is it.

These oftenly forget that the people who they are supporting had been and are still the biggest ghulaams of America. After seeing Saddam and Tariq Azeez, is there any doubt over it. Every one knows that Usama was USA's fellow and is still USA's fellow. This will be proved one day. Hamaray logon kaa kiya hai in logon nay tu apni aulaad kay naam Saddam Hussain rakh liyey thay just becoz they felt Saddam was a hero. Now let them name their kids as Usama by having inspiration of this Usama bin Laden. One day people may conclude him a carbon copy of Saddam.

Every thing is possible in this era. It has been the problem of Ummah that people did everything wrong and played with the emotions on the name of God and religion. Just check out our own leaders like Zia-ul-Haq. It is real but it is difficult to understand.

Let's wait for a time when we will understand how our belief is used by such hands to achieve their own targets. Our people make assumptions on the basis of hopes. Every one wishes to find out Salah-ud-din Ayubi. May we one day find out such a true hero. However, if some one feels that these Swati so-called Mujahideen (I mean Fazalullah and Soofi Muhammad) are going to be like him, it is just a pitty on such thought. Israr can tell what the character these people bear. I said one must know Swat to make an analyis.


Regards,



KAMRAN.

[Muhammad Amir]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Every one knows that Usama was USA's fellow and <b>is still USA's fellow</b>. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

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Can you quote any single line where i used the word "KAFIR" or "DOZAKHI" and how can i use these words for my muslim brothers(it is the worse to do with my EEMAN) and mind you AMRECI GHULAMIE does not disqualify any one from Islam.

As far as suicide attacks are cocerned i am strongly against them and i on record say that these suicude attacks have never been committed by Mujahedeen. These attacks are the product of "SHUMALE ETIHAD(Comunists)"

[Astute Accountant]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Muhammad Amir</i>
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With due apology for intrusion, what's wrong about this line? There is no doubt in this fact that Usama was, is and will remain a US fellow. If this is incorrect, why didn't he get killed in heavy bombing by the US? Not only this but, he doesn't even get hurt by the US's Laser Guided Missiles. Why and how???

Similarly, why hasn't the US been able to track; from where does Usama and/or his allies upload the videos on the internet when "The US Dpartment of Defence" is the one who has led to the development of the Internet (for the secure transfer and sharing of its security related data and files).

This is totally unbelievable that a State which has conquered the space is so helpless in front of just one man and his few hundred supporters, without the involvement of the US itself.

[kamranACA]

Dear Astute,


I know you are correct.

I believe in God and I believe God is the most powerful and greatest.

Still if we become ignorant of the developments other nations have made or if we feel we are the only beloved nation (I am talking about nation and not about religion) of God then we are living in fools paradise.

We have a habit of forgetting and we forget the history very soon. We forget that God is not dependent on specific persons or nation. We forget what happened in Iraq when Changez Khan and his generation killed millions of so-called muslims. They prepared towers of human cranium using 14 lac skulls of those Iraqi muslims. God did not cOme to rescue such so-called noble muslims against the Kuffaar. What history speaks is totally different. He let those Kuffaars kill the muslims and then reverted his attention on such Kuffar and made their generation strongest muslims of that era.

Why our eyes don't foresee such a situation. Why our hearts don't wish to believe in truth. Why our minds don't allow us making educational, technical, financial, economical and ammuniational strength before challenging such enemies? Why we forget what has happened in history? Why we forget what powers other nations have through satellite controlled ammunitions? Why we believe that Usama and others are hidden just becoz of their bravery? Why we close down our eyes and minds? Why we still believe that we can fight back kuffaar hiding our heads in the mountains for a very long run? If such militants have not so far ben killed or fixed, why we feel it is due to strength of such miltants? Can it be so?

If we will not mend our illiterate ways, I am afraid God will again let USA and others to eliminate us from the face of earth and this time they will not even bother to create towers of human cranium. God can make them muslims afterwards.

I wish and pray this may not happen but believe you me God has no necessity or dependence on specific persons.

We have to tell this to our Maulvi and every one having Mullah's thought. (This is being used as a general term).


Regards,



KAMRAN.

[Pracs]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Muhammad Amir</i>
<br />Dear Imran,

I am glad to see that at least one person is supporting the truth and i thank you for your support.

Some people here are talking about the Suicidal attacks and they are saying these suicidal attacks are committed as offence but i have to clear them one thing and that this is some other debate that whether these suicide attacks are allowed or not and if they are allowed then upto what extent these attacks are allowed but these people are like those who see every thing from one side they have seen that mujahedeen are committing suicide attacks but they didn't see the ZULM of Pakistani forces, they are seeing that people from SAWAT are committing suicide attacks but they didn't see how many BE-GUNAH people are being martayered by these AMRECI GHULAMS.

Suicide attacks are the reaction of PERVAZE's policies and Mujahedden have to turn their efforts from America to Pak army the sole reason behind this is that our army is trying to make people affraid and detter from Jehad.

Can you believe that after 2001 Pakistan army has lost their JAWANS more then American Army men.

Regards,

Muhammad Amir
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Grow up and have mercy on the rest of Pakistanis,. find another way to go to Jannah,. perhaps earning out a halal living and full filling your Haqooq alabad by not blowing up your carcasses on innocent men, women and Children.

If you even believe in half the stuff you dish out on this forum, may Allah SWT have mercy on you and guide you towards the right path. Amin.

[kamranACA]

Dears,


I give hereunder difference of belief and stance


<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Tahoma, Arial" id="quote">quote<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Muhammad Amir</i>

..........Some people here are talking about the Suicidal attacks and they are saying these suicidal attacks are committed as offence but i have to clear them one thing and that this is some other debate that whether these suicide attacks are allowed or not and if they are allowed then upto what extent these attacks are allowed......

........Suicide attacks are the reaction of PERVAZE's policies and Mujahedden have to turn their efforts from America to Pak army the sole reason behind this is that our army is trying to make people affraid and detter from Jehad.............

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Now see it in comparison of following

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As far as suicide attacks are cocerned i am strongly against them and i on record say that these suicude attacks have never been committed by Mujahedeen. These attacks are the product of "SHUMALE ETIHAD(Comunists)"

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Is not it amazing?


Regards,



KAMRAN.