11-02-2010, 05:33 PM
Hahahahaahah, Dear main aisi cheezain is liay daikhta hun or dikhata hun takay chehray pay shrafat k naqab dalay hoay Lambi Lambi darhee or rang brangay cholon main jhotay loog Moojood hain un ko expose kia ja skay or Awam ko saboot k sath btaya jay k wo kis Islam py chal rahay hain or is Islam pay chlnay wala kahan jata hay.
Bayshak, Islam do he cheezon ka name hay Allah ka hukam or Muhammad SW ka tareeqa jo hmain Sahihi Ahadis e Mubarika say milta hay, or agr in do cheezon say koi baat nahi milay tu Sahaba Kiram RA k Asaar.Is k illawa agr koi bat hay tu wo jhot hay, kisi bhi sorat main Islam nahi hay.
Infact, mera wo link post krnay ka maqsad yay hay k Islamic Spiritualistics k nazdeek jab wo Wajad ya Haal main hotay hain (jaisa k ap nay daikha) tu wo Majzoob ho jatay hain or is halat main kuch bhi keh daitay hain. Main sb ko wajad or haal ka haal dikha raha tha.
Fraoon nay kaha main khuda hun tu wo Allah ka dushman krar dia gia, Mansoor Hallaj nay kaha main he khuda hun tu usay kaha gia majzoobiat ki halat main or Ishq e Illahi main doooob kr bola hay lehaza wo Sardar or Ayliya ho gia.(us waqt k Ulema nay usay qatal ka fatwa dia or usay qatal kia gia) Bayzeed Bastami na bola Khudai ka wo bhi Majzzob ho ka Ayliya Allah ho gay, wahdat Ul wajood ki term ijaad ki gain k hr cheez khuda hay or khuda hr cheez hay ( Insan Hewan Jin Naooz Billah sb khuda hay or Khuda in sb main hai) Philosphana batain ghuma phira k alfaz ka radoo bdal kr k Allah ki wahdaniat ka inkar kia gia or Hindu ki tarah hr cheez k khuda honay ka dawa kia gia or abhi bhi kia jata hay. Laikin us pay koi nahin bolta jo jar hay jhotay Nabion ki paidaish ki. Halool ka aqeeda jis k mutabiq Shaikh itni bulandi pr pohanch jatay hain k Allah un k ander aa jata hay (NaoozBillah). Or kiun koi bolay ga? is hmam main sb nangay jo hain. buhat bray bray ulema k name aatay hain k unki books bhri hoi hain in aqaid say.
So, main nay yehe kaha hay deen kisi phalsphor ki chwloon ka name nai hay. Buhat seedha sadha name hay Allah k ahkam Allah k Nabi SW k btay hoay tareeqon py amal krnay ka. But, unfortunately, bri bri khankahoo k name atay hain bray bray Shaikh ul hadees expose hotay hay is liay is jr k baray main koi nahin bol raha tha jis ki waja say loog majzoob ho k kbhi khuda bn jatay hain or kbhi Rasool Naoozbillah.
NazoBillah mera question yay tha k Yousuf ka kia qusoor hay agr us nay majzoobiat main apnay sathion ko sahaba keh dia? Apko maloom hay k Khudai ka dawa krnay walon ki shan main yahan books likhi jati hain? Miraz Qadyan ka kia qusoor hay? Goher shahi ko agr apni tasweer chand main nzar aati hay tu uska kia qusoor hay ? yay sb tu sachay sufi hain Naooz Billah, Aur Khudai ka dawa krnay walay Shaheed e Sufia ( Allah ki Lanat aisay ishq e Illahi per or aisay qurb e Illahe per jo Khaliq or Makhlooq ka frq he mita day)
Ap nay shaid Fana Fillah, Baqa Billah, Haqeqat, or Tareeqat ki philosphy nahi prhi, yay sari terms or in k conceptes apko hindu yogism, vedanta, meditation, spirtuality ki sorat main apko hinduism, Christan, bud ism, Jewish, sb main nzar aa jay gi, do search on google n compare the concepts side by side, concepts same hungay but name change hungay, Ham Arabi main boltay hain wo apni apni zubano main or un logo ki bhi buhat kramat hoti hain you can check powers of hindu spirtulism on google.
Aam loog in sb kufr or shirk ki philoshion sy waqif nahin hain wo sirf kramat daikh k emaan lay atay hain. Allah hm sab ko Allah or Allah k Nabi SW k diay gay Islam pay zinda rakhay or mout day (Ameen)
Finally, I do believe k Spiritualistic powers mojood hain, laikin Islam say iska koi taluq nahi hay. For Example Agar kisi ko hath daikhna aata hay usnay palmistry prhe hy or seekhi hay, ya kisi ko face reading aati hay or us nay prhi ya seekhi hay or experience bhi kia hay or wo face daikh k sb kuch bta daita hy, ya samnay wala kia soch raha hy jan laita hay, ya usay hypnotism aati hay wo zehno ko apnay tabay kr laita hay tu uska hr giz yay mtlab nahin hay ko Allah ka Wali hay. Same knowledges, spirituality koi bhi hindu, sikh yahoodi, muslim agr seekhay smjay tu tu us k pass buhat si supernatural powers aa jati hain layikin in powers ka religion say koi taluq nai hay. Yahan loog Allah ho ki zrbain lga k power hasil krtay hain n Hindustan main AUM ka mantra prh k. That's Separate science apart of religion and i think it as a Magic.
Bayshak, Islam do he cheezon ka name hay Allah ka hukam or Muhammad SW ka tareeqa jo hmain Sahihi Ahadis e Mubarika say milta hay, or agr in do cheezon say koi baat nahi milay tu Sahaba Kiram RA k Asaar.Is k illawa agr koi bat hay tu wo jhot hay, kisi bhi sorat main Islam nahi hay.
Infact, mera wo link post krnay ka maqsad yay hay k Islamic Spiritualistics k nazdeek jab wo Wajad ya Haal main hotay hain (jaisa k ap nay daikha) tu wo Majzoob ho jatay hain or is halat main kuch bhi keh daitay hain. Main sb ko wajad or haal ka haal dikha raha tha.
Fraoon nay kaha main khuda hun tu wo Allah ka dushman krar dia gia, Mansoor Hallaj nay kaha main he khuda hun tu usay kaha gia majzoobiat ki halat main or Ishq e Illahi main doooob kr bola hay lehaza wo Sardar or Ayliya ho gia.(us waqt k Ulema nay usay qatal ka fatwa dia or usay qatal kia gia) Bayzeed Bastami na bola Khudai ka wo bhi Majzzob ho ka Ayliya Allah ho gay, wahdat Ul wajood ki term ijaad ki gain k hr cheez khuda hay or khuda hr cheez hay ( Insan Hewan Jin Naooz Billah sb khuda hay or Khuda in sb main hai) Philosphana batain ghuma phira k alfaz ka radoo bdal kr k Allah ki wahdaniat ka inkar kia gia or Hindu ki tarah hr cheez k khuda honay ka dawa kia gia or abhi bhi kia jata hay. Laikin us pay koi nahin bolta jo jar hay jhotay Nabion ki paidaish ki. Halool ka aqeeda jis k mutabiq Shaikh itni bulandi pr pohanch jatay hain k Allah un k ander aa jata hay (NaoozBillah). Or kiun koi bolay ga? is hmam main sb nangay jo hain. buhat bray bray ulema k name aatay hain k unki books bhri hoi hain in aqaid say.
So, main nay yehe kaha hay deen kisi phalsphor ki chwloon ka name nai hay. Buhat seedha sadha name hay Allah k ahkam Allah k Nabi SW k btay hoay tareeqon py amal krnay ka. But, unfortunately, bri bri khankahoo k name atay hain bray bray Shaikh ul hadees expose hotay hay is liay is jr k baray main koi nahin bol raha tha jis ki waja say loog majzoob ho k kbhi khuda bn jatay hain or kbhi Rasool Naoozbillah.
NazoBillah mera question yay tha k Yousuf ka kia qusoor hay agr us nay majzoobiat main apnay sathion ko sahaba keh dia? Apko maloom hay k Khudai ka dawa krnay walon ki shan main yahan books likhi jati hain? Miraz Qadyan ka kia qusoor hay? Goher shahi ko agr apni tasweer chand main nzar aati hay tu uska kia qusoor hay ? yay sb tu sachay sufi hain Naooz Billah, Aur Khudai ka dawa krnay walay Shaheed e Sufia ( Allah ki Lanat aisay ishq e Illahi per or aisay qurb e Illahe per jo Khaliq or Makhlooq ka frq he mita day)
Ap nay shaid Fana Fillah, Baqa Billah, Haqeqat, or Tareeqat ki philosphy nahi prhi, yay sari terms or in k conceptes apko hindu yogism, vedanta, meditation, spirtuality ki sorat main apko hinduism, Christan, bud ism, Jewish, sb main nzar aa jay gi, do search on google n compare the concepts side by side, concepts same hungay but name change hungay, Ham Arabi main boltay hain wo apni apni zubano main or un logo ki bhi buhat kramat hoti hain you can check powers of hindu spirtulism on google.
Aam loog in sb kufr or shirk ki philoshion sy waqif nahin hain wo sirf kramat daikh k emaan lay atay hain. Allah hm sab ko Allah or Allah k Nabi SW k diay gay Islam pay zinda rakhay or mout day (Ameen)
Finally, I do believe k Spiritualistic powers mojood hain, laikin Islam say iska koi taluq nahi hay. For Example Agar kisi ko hath daikhna aata hay usnay palmistry prhe hy or seekhi hay, ya kisi ko face reading aati hay or us nay prhi ya seekhi hay or experience bhi kia hay or wo face daikh k sb kuch bta daita hy, ya samnay wala kia soch raha hy jan laita hay, ya usay hypnotism aati hay wo zehno ko apnay tabay kr laita hay tu uska hr giz yay mtlab nahin hay ko Allah ka Wali hay. Same knowledges, spirituality koi bhi hindu, sikh yahoodi, muslim agr seekhay smjay tu tu us k pass buhat si supernatural powers aa jati hain layikin in powers ka religion say koi taluq nai hay. Yahan loog Allah ho ki zrbain lga k power hasil krtay hain n Hindustan main AUM ka mantra prh k. That's Separate science apart of religion and i think it as a Magic.
